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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

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by Marchesa
on Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:28 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

Can I confirm again
by Marchesa
on Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:07 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

oh in that case i am unconfirming
by Marchesa
on Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:45 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

I unconfirmed this game isn't even supposed to start yet omg
by Marchesa
on Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:50 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

Miu Miu this is not a game

I expect you to take this seriously.
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:52 am
 
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I expect you to take this game seriously too, Meg.

I understand that you are jealous of my Acting prowess but that is no reason to get bitchy.
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:30 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

you are a pair of feet sooooo
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:48 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

itt people acting like it's more important to get out of RVS than to let the game organically develop

In a 22 player game 4 pages is nothing. Also with it taking 13 people to lynch there was practically nothing gained from RVS at all as I think the most votes on someone put them at L-9
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:20 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

Also of note is that Shannon Bestie was not playing as noob and if you actually read that game the playstyle was very aggressive and the playstyle evolved once out of RVS and made some of the best posts in that game. if every town member played like fegelein did shannon bestie we'd be in an excellent position

At this point Burberry looks the most obvious town to me

Also Hermes is not disguising himself at all
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:40 pm
 
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Disguising meaning hiding your PO identity 

I should of phrased that better

Kristin Stewart is not very articulate.
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:03 pm
 
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Kristen Stewart can also not spell her own name
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:09 pm
 
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Right but it was future behavior that made her clean not the initial reaction test
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:18 pm
 
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You like to rhyme
You do it all the time
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:24 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

Hermès wrote:
Hermès wrote:VALENTINO 4 LYFE. I still don't like your comment about early bandwagons. Early bandwagons when there is a scumtell is different than just a random bandwagon.


By the way, it's implied that I was saying there wasn't really any scumtells to justify an early bandwagon.


Early bandwagons are meant to create pressure because it is more likely for scum to make mistakes under pressure than they are to just randomly scumslip. It's why most elite poker players play an extremely aggressive style because it's better to be the one dictating the action as opposed to being reactionary. Justifying wagons is nice and all but sometimes you can make your opponent fold with a deuce-seven.
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:50 pm
 
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the host is a spammer
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:12 pm
 
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Me and Hermes have expressed vastly different opinions on RVS so it's kind of hard to not be a little biased when it comes to that. The only thing I've seen that I really see as possibly scummy is the complete dismissal of the Dior vote which could be seen as trying to relieve pressure on a partner.

But I don't have a strong read one way or another.
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:54 pm
 
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I like the rhymes Sad
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:54 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

sebas Frappucino is actually spelled with 2 Cs.
by Marchesa
on Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:37 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

TIFFANY HELLO
by Marchesa
on Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:05 am
 
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Let us sip tea and catch up together!

Although I may have already drank too much of something else and it makes reading large posts difficult so perhaps I shall wait until later.
by Marchesa
on Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:14 am
 
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13 hours would be more in line with my schedule I am afraid. I really hope this isn't an inconvenience for you my dear.
by Marchesa
on Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:19 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

It's a date!
by Marchesa
on Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:24 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1

Just looking over the last 5 pages for posts I found odd since I didn't really look at them much.
Spoiler:

Prada wrote:I voted Dior back in the RVS. I clearly wasn't going to get a reaction from them though which is why Im now trying someone else.


This is really passive and is kind of distancing from that vote which seems kind of off.

Spoiler:

Jimmy Choo wrote:
Vera Wang wrote:Oh hi, I hear that we have

vote Jimmy Choo


I have provided enough for this not to be random orientated therefore please tell me more about your voting decision

Burberry wrote:
Early wagons can be beneficial at times because you can see how a person reacts when there are more votes on them rather than anyone else. You’ll get a reaction out of them as opposed to if we just randomly voted every single person in this game.

I agree with this statement. I'd rather people were wagoning than randomly voting people, putting pressure on is what makes this stage of the game so useful. The bit that people miss read is the "random" in random vote stage... votes arent meant to be placed at random.. random votes are anti-town. I myself am i partial culprit of this though am now trying to get us to actually read people and start doing stuff.

Jimmy asking us to try to predict what kind of tactics scum will try to pull off seems really useless. You also offer up your own suggestion as to what they may do then in the next sentence you tear it down. As to whether bussing is plausible, I wouldn’t discount the possibility, but I probably wouldn’t look for it day 1.

If we were to discuss who was behaving according to our thought-up scum behaviors I feel we wouldn’t get very far because 75% of the game up to this point has been just random voting. I understand what you mean by trying to be proactive though.

In answer to the first part i was trying to open up lines of debate as an opening question for everyone to get involved with however looks like people arent going to want to do that. I feel that scum would want to want to hide in RVS for as long as possible and wanted to voice my opinion on the matter as well as start engaging in debate.

That was the downside of the plan as most of the game was random voting which can be hard to read yet again I feel that "oooh it was rvs, it doesnt matter" can be used for finding who generally is feeling anti-town, start of the game is where scum are weakest.

unvote





I already posted a rebuttal of sorts to the majority of this post but I wanted to point out the very end of this post "start of the game is where scum are weakest." Isn't it kind of the opposite though because scum have all the information and have the advantage number wise and no one has any reads. I actually get a pro-town from the rest of this post even if I disagree with a lot of it so perhaps i am being anal idek
Spoiler:


Miu Miu wrote:
I suppose that the Unvote at that point was a bit of a prudent blunder on my behalf; nevertheless, after following two of the more recent NOCs on PO (both of which scum won - being Finchinator/Raducan and Uso/Treecko), there were reckless day 1 reads, actions, and even lynches which ultimately were detrimental towards the town in the long run due to lack of the game developmental period transpiring. Even if the town did catch a scum at this point, who is so adamant to strongly pursue their scum-reads currently and willing to risk a harmful mislynch?

I know, I know, I know - this is all over-cautious and my blatant conservatism is arguably an overreaction and could give you guys the wrong idea on who I am, but I do it at the best interest of the towns' prosperity.

Moreover, I stand by my initial anti-wagon knee-jerk reaction to the vote count I saw as I wasn't fully informed of the contents of the thread at that point due to my busy schedule. Now, I have caught-up a bit and read a fair amount. Needless to say, some people are overthinking the value of minuscule detailed, especially at this point, in my opinions. I advise a more lax analysis of players and such in a game of this quantity and set-up, but you can differentiate in beliefs if you wish. Regardless of personal philosophy, I will remain voteless for now, but keep my eye on the following individuals: Hermés and Versace.

That is all.



There are basically 3 paragraphs dedicated to defending herself then basically one sentence saying 2 people she views as scummy without any actual reasoning. KIND OF EDIT SORT OF: anyway she was called at that and kind of backed off on her read of Versace because it was only a read because she was inactive or something?

Spoiler:

Jimmy Choo wrote:
As I was hoping to find a correlation between those who replied [to my questions] and those who didn't but still remained active I can draw two early conclusions.

Firstly that there is either about 6 people who are pro town and rest being anti town or secondly that those 6 or so are correlating to be anti town and visa versa. However my reads do not reflect this so I'll leave my mind to ponder for a bit on what this means. At the moment though I think that those who scum read asking quite legitimate questions (remember all that information we had for asking questions on.. oh wait there wasnt any) are still having town qualities for providing an alternative debate.

The ones who I believe to be less town are more of the likes of Miu Miu, Valentino and Vivienne Westwood for actively ignoring a question which they clearly would have seen. My point was directly aimed at everyone as those who actively went out of their way to discard something which could threaten their position, Ie scum not wanting to give their own tactics away seems likely in this situation.



A pretty good post but never pursued any further. It kind of just stops after naming 3 names.


Other random Notes :

Tiffany and I are the best couple <33333

Roy Mustang and Metal S.... errrr Hermes and Valentino's exchanges are hilarious

yeah i kind of just added that section to say those 2 things

I was kind of hoping there were more interesting posts to analyze but no not really

At this point the only people I see as remotely scummy are Miu Miu and to a certain extent Jimmy Choo
I think Valentino is my only really strong town reads atm
by Marchesa
on Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:43 am
 
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Yeah I know there's supposed to be a thread for guessing after the game or something but it isn't in the rules
by Marchesa
on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:27 am
 
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Tiffany you have arrived! I am so joyous that you did not forget our appointment!
by Marchesa
on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:54 am
 
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