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Post by Lucifer on Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:03 pm

First topic message reminder :

Players Alive: Bulgari, Burberry, Chanel, Givenchy, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood, Yves Saint Laurent

Players Dead:
Miu Miu, worn by Amanda Seyfried, was a Town Fruit Vendor - lynched Day 1.
Dior, worn by Mila Kunis, was a Triggered Suicidal Innocent Child - killed Night 1.
Kate Spade, worn by Sasha Obama, was a Town Unrequited Lover - killed Night 2.
Hermès, worn by Miley Cyrus, was a Town Unrequited Lover - committed suicide Night 2.
Tiffany, worn by Audrey Hepburn, was a Town Bulletproof Miller - killed Day 3.
Louis Vuitton, worn by Kanye West, was a Town Compulsive Vanillaiser - lynched Day 3.
Fendi, worn by Tupac Shakur, was a Mafia Traitor & Absorber - killed Night 3.
Ray-Ban, worn by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, was a Town Reporter - lynched Day 4.
Versace, worn by Drake, was a Town Super Hated Doublevoter - killed Night 4.
Alexander McQueen, worn by some unknown model, was a Town Cop - lynched Day 5.
Vera Wang, worn by Anne Hathaway, was a Town Neighbor - killed Night 5.
Gucci, worn by Jennifer Lawrence, was a Town Suicide Bomber - blown up Day 6.
Valentino, worn by Florence Welch, was a Mafia 1-Shot Ninja and 2-Shot Sensor - blown up Day 6.
Jimmy Choo, worn by Kim Kardashian's feet, was a Town Neighbor - killed Night 6.
Prada, worn by Meryl Streep, was a Mafia Passive Jack-of-all-Trades - lynched Day 7.
Zara, worn by Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, was a Town Jailkeeper - killed Night 7.
Armani, worn by Cristiano Ronaldo, was a Vanilla Townie - lynched Day 8.

Votecounts: Lucifer's ISO

Replacements: Louis Vuitton, Kate Spade, Hermès, Givenchy, Armani, Vivienne Westwood, Armani, Vivienne Westwood, Marchesa, Zara, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood, Chanel

Previous Threads: Day 1, Day 2, Day 3.1, Day 3.2-3.9, Day 4, Day 5, Day 6, Day 7

Things To Note:


  • All roles are variations/modifications of the ones listed here.
  • No posts for 48 hours = prodded. 3 prods or no post/response in 24 hours = replaced.
  • You can see if a player is online with a small blue box in the top right corner of their posts (if they have not hidden their online status).
  • Players may only request one deadline extension per game if 25% of the players (rounded up) post in thread asking for one, bolded for me to see.
  • This game uses the following Night Action Resolution, or "priority". Simultaneous actions will both occur, and actions that combine these use the first priority:
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    Commute
    Hide
    Redirection
    Roleblock/stop
    Jailkeep
    Miscellaneous
    Protect
    Kill
    Doctor
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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Chanel on Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:44 am

@Clarifying- I went back and checked (I didn't hold much stock in the limitations because I already knew I couldn't use my shot again), and it did say expressly D3 but reading is tech.

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Lucifer on Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:04 am

[[ VOTECOUNT 8.1 ]]


bitches pls


Not Voting (8) - Armani, Bulgari, Burberry, Chanel, Givenchy, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST, approximately 5.5 days from now.

Armani returns from V/LA in 1-2 days. Because I don't want to have to find yet another replacement in MYLO (they are returning soon anyway), an extra day has been given.

The first prods will be coming in 12 hours if Bulgari does not post by then.

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Post by Yves Saint Laurent on Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:53 am

chanel what is your full role name? you still havent answered that question.

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Post by Marchesa on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:14 am

That means there would have had to be another form of protection to prevent the kill on Prada.

So 2 questions I want everyone to answer:

Who do think is scum?
Who do you think is the best lynch for today?

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Marchesa on Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:21 pm

@ Lucifer, is deadline Friday or Saturday

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Lucifer on Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:34 pm

Marchesa wrote:@ Lucifer, is deadline Friday or Saturday

It was moved to Saturday; I forgot to change the title.

Bulgari is being prodded. One more prod and I may replace or simply modkill if necessary.

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Marchesa on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:11 pm

Burberry wrote:I am not totally townreading Givenchy though because her claim is weird to me.

How does her claim not clean her? Having a pair of unrequited lovers makes no sense, there must be at least one more, nobody has counter claimed so Givenchy is 100% clean

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Post by Vivienne Westwood on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:20 pm

Marchesa wrote:That means there would have had to be another form of protection to prevent the kill on Prada.

So 2 questions I want everyone to answer:

Who do think is scum?
Who do you think is the best lynch for today?
Maybe Prada is one-shot self protect or something?

I would think one of Armani and Burberry. Maybe even both if they attempt to bus.

Not sure who is the better option. Someone could have fake claimed CPR doctor and frame the ones who got role-blocked. But also someone could have fake claim being vanillaised because the Seraph Knight ability cannot be role-blocked. (Or can it?)

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Marchesa on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:31 pm

[size=12.727272033691406]Louis verified that he vanillaised Armani.[/size]


[size=12.727272033691406]For Burberry's claim to be true, they either have a form of protection that is not Armani or Prada's JOAT has to have prevented her kill somehow.[/size]


[size=12.727272033691406]If Armani does flip Mafia Seraph Knight then that would clean Burberry as that is town's only killing role.[/size]


So in regards to Armani and Burberry there are a few possibilities

Armani is telling the truth, Burberry is scum
Armani is Mafia Seraph Knight, Burberry is clean
Armani is some other mafia role, Burberry is scum
Armani is some other mafia role, mafia have another form of protection, Burberry is telling the truth

I want to hear from Burberry and Givenchy in regards to the new info about the nature of a serpah knights protection. 

Burberry has been in the game since the start and Givenchy subbed in a lot earlier than I did so they might think of possibilities I haven't or might be able to tell me if I am wrong on anything. Givenchy in particular I want to hear from

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Post by Marchesa on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:40 pm

As a product of my sheer boredom and my frustration with how slow this game is moving I've decided to do this pretty little VCA, whether it will be useful i don't know, once we get a couple more flips it could be helpful.



Day 1


Miu Miu (13) - Burberry, Vivienne Westwood, Dior, Valentino, Chanel, Kate Spade, Ray-Ban, Alexander McQueen, Tiffany, Louis Vuitton, Fendi, Bulgari, Marchesa
Louis Vuitton (3) - Gucci, Versace
Hermès (2) - Prada, Yves Saint Laurent
Armani (2) - Jimmy Choo, Hermès
Kate Spade (1) - Givenchy
Tiffany (1) - Miu Miu
Valentino (1) - Armani



Not Voting (2) - Vera Wang, Zara



Day 2


Louis Vuitton (Cool - Hermès, Versace, Burberry, Ray-Ban, Givenchy, Vera Wang, Jimmy Choo
Ray-Ban (5) - Bulgari, Chanel, Tiffany, Prada, Louis Vuitton
Tiffany (4) - Alexander McQueenFendi, Kate Spade, Valentino
Jimmy Choo (1) - Yves Saint Laurent


Not Voting (5) - Armani, Gucci, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood, Zara



Day 3


Louis Vuitton (10) - Versace, Vera Wang, Yves Saint Laurent, Jimmy Choo, Prada, Burberry, Fendi, Valentino, Ray-Ban
Jimmy Choo (1) - Armani
Ray-Ban (1) - Louis Vuitton
Valentino (1) - Givenchy


Not Voting (7) - Alexander McQueen, Bulgari, Chanel, Gucci, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood, Zara



Day 4


Ray-Ban (9) - Givenchy, Burberry, Chanel, Vivienne Westwood, Valentino, Alexander McQueen, Prada, Bulgari, Yves Saint Laurent
Prada (3) - Versace, Ray-Ban
Burberry (2) - Gucci, Vera Wang
Alexander McQueen (1) - Jimmy Choo
Jimmy Choo (1) - Armani


Not Voting (2) - Marchesa, Zara

Day 5

Alexander McQueen (Cool - Valentino, Yves Saint Laurent, Armani, Burberry, Bulgari, Chanel, Givenchy, Jimmy Choo
Valentino (3) - Prada, Vivienne Westwood, Gucci
Burberry (1) - Alexander McQueen

Not Voting (3) - Marchesa, Vera Wang, Zara



Day 6



Burberry (3) - Givenchy, Zara, Prada
Prada (3) - Jimmy Choo, Burberry, Yves Saint Laurent
Yves Saint Laurent (1) - Bulgari

Not Voting (4) - Armani, Chanel, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood



Day 7



Prada (6) - Yves Saint Laurent, Givenchy, Burberry, Armani, Zara, Bulgari
Burberry (1) - Prada

Not Voting (3) - Chanel, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Armani on Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:56 pm

I used my ability on Hermes. I believe that question was asked.

I would like to point out that Burberry just made their first case after they were a likely quick lynch. They pointed out my case on Jimmy but yet I never voted them. That is entirely false. I voted them originally then found it was useless to pursue that lynch at that time but made sure to remind everyone of my scum read on them. I made my case before the end of a day to try and get people to take the night time to look over it and see what I was talking about. There were also some other people whom agreed with some of what I was saying thinking that Jimmy was scum.

I know this is WIFOMy but why would I kill a person whom I have been trying to get lynched since I replaced into the game? That makes little to no sense.

Also, I am no longer V/LA. If there is anything I can answer for you all let me know.

Burberry is for sure scum.

Also, a Seraph Knight isn't that strong when you think about it. I have to choose someone at random. It could be town or scum but as long as I am not redirected or blocked they are protected from being killed using a killing command. They would still die if lover and their lover died. This means I could literally protect the mafia from being killed by a vigilante if there were one. Finally, it is a compulsive ability so I have to use it Night 1 where the is little to no information.

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Marchesa on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:03 pm

@-Armani,

Who do you think are the other 2 scum? If you need to provided us a "2 of the following" list that's fine, just try to put them in some sort of priority order.

I'm leaning towards a Bulgari lynch at the moment pending further discussion on Burberry's ability as the situation is pretty complicated. I think Bulgari is a safe option.

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Post by Armani on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:36 pm

The best bet is to lynch between me and Burberry. While it is risky it is our highest chance of hitting scum.

Notice how your situations didn't have a single one that said we were both town. Lynching outside of me and Burberry it too much of a risk.

Out of these 4.

Yves
Chanel
Bulgari
Givenchy

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Post by Yves Saint Laurent on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:44 pm

no armani it isnt best to lynch between you two, because there we have a 50% chance of lynching scum, whereas we have a 66% chance of lynching scum out of the other people, because im cop cleaned, and givenchy cant be scum. you didnt mention viv in your list, do you think she isnt scum, or did you just forget? if the former is your answer, why? also do you townread marchesa, because you didnt mention her either.

so its one of armani/burberry and two of chanel/bulgari/vivienne. im leaning on burberry and viv as town, but the thing lucifer said about the modkill almost made me rethink it. because it would have a significant impact on the game if bulgari was modkilled as scum whereas it wouldnt be as significant as if they were modkilled as town.

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Post by Armani on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:02 pm

The reason I think you might be scum is because you think Burberry is town.

I did those off of vote analysis. I haven't payed much attention to the game. I am here now because we have an actual chance at winning this now.

Also, please show me the towniness of Burberry when you have a chance.

Finally I like Marchesa's posts today and they give me a good vibe so they are in my town pile for now.

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Post by Marchesa on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:54 pm

Yves Saint Laurent wrote:im leaning on burberry and viv as town, but the thing lucifer said about the modkill almost made me rethink it. because it would have a significant impact on the game if bulgari was modkilled as scum whereas it wouldnt be as significant as if they were modkilled as town.

I have some thoughts on this but we probably shouldn't be analysing mod threats

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Post by Bulgari on Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:10 am

Prod dodging, will read more later.

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Post by Burberry on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:27 am

Armani wrote:I would like to point out that Burberry just made their first case after they were a likely quick lynch.  They pointed out my case on Jimmy but yet I never voted them.  That is entirely false.  I voted them originally then found it was useless to pursue that lynch at that time but made sure to remind everyone of my scum read on them.  I made my case before the end of a day to try and get people to take the night time to look over it and see what I was talking about.  There were also some other people whom agreed with some of what I was saying thinking that Jimmy was scum.

Look, here's your vote on them Day 5! Notice how before this there has been absolutely no preface explaining this, and on Day 6 you didn't make a case on him at all until the end, and didn't even vote him that day either. Link me if I'm wrong, I probably got lost in the dozen posts of you saying Jimmy is scum and backing it up with nothing but that one post (which had dubious logic anyways).

Armani wrote:Also, a Seraph Knight isn't that strong when you think about it.  I have to choose someone at random.  It could be town or scum but as long as I am not redirected or blocked they are protected from being killed using a killing command.  They would still die if lover and their lover died.  This means I could literally protect the mafia from being killed by a vigilante if there were one.  Finally, it is a compulsive ability so I have to use it Night 1 where the is little to no information.

I don't believe any of the Armanis mentioned this ability was compulsive (if I did, show me it).

On the new Seraph Knight info: Prada's passive jack-of-all-trades role is very likely to have protected her, since no one would have targeted her for a nightkill because she was on the scumteam.

Back to Armani: his list and his subsequent response to Yves is terrible. He is mildly scumreading her for thinking I am town; that is a terrible reason already. I'm not understanding how you could pull Givenchy as scum from votecount analysis because she's had her vote on Valentino quite a bit and the other votes were on the major wagons (not jumping around a lot). If you're going to say that just because she had her vote on Val doesn't mean she's town then I'd really like to see this logic of yours placing scumreads on people just by votecount analysis.

You're going to ask people why I'm town? The burden of proof is on you to find why I'm scummy, not lynch people who just don't look town to you.

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Post by Givenchy on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:08 am

I've had further thoughts on Burb, but I haven't really had time to post.

I actually hadn't considered the possibility that mafia tried to kill me, which could explain why there was only one kill night 5. Furthermore, the kill failing on Prada is most likely due to her role as "passive" JOAT.

Passive implies that none of her actions could have been actively used, but rather simply occured when she was target. Hence, I believe Prada not dying to Burb's CPR shot could be the result of a bulletproof or the like.

However, as I was reading through to clarify this action stuff I stumbled across this: http://koalas.forumotion.com/t8p100-fashionable-noc-anon-mafia-day-6-sun-mar-9-200-est#1621 I came to a realization that it is much more likely Burb's action failed due to a passive rolestop that Prada had. Since rolestop has a higher priority than jailkeep, Burb would have lost a shot.

Since both the night 4 and 5 results can be explained much more easily than I previously thought, I am now reconsidering my thoughts on Burb. I'm not completely convinced that they're town, but I am inclined to think so now~

My number 1 lynch is Armani, followed by Bulgari. Still not sure who the final scum is but they're likely between Vivienne/Chanel/Burb, although I'm not completely sure Marchesa and Yves are clean~

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Post by Armani on Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:32 pm

Burberry, since I KNOW you are scum of course I am going to be suspicious of anyone who town reads you. All the people on my list that defend you are suspicious. Also, I made my claim myself and I didn't see any of my past self claim. The fact I didn't say it was compulsive means jack shit.

Givenchy/Burberry/Yves scum team. I am calling it now.

I am confident at least 2 of those are right and I know Burberry is scum.


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Post by Marchesa on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:55 pm

Yves and I already established that Givenchy's claim makes them 100% clean. The fact that you're just calling everyone who wants your lynch scum plus the flip flop on me shows are caught scum flailing.

I was still tentative until now but Armani should definitely be our lynch today.

Bulgari and Chanel are probably the last 2. I don't believe Chanel at all when they say that missed their dayvig being restricted to day 3 in their role pm. These roles have no flavour outside the aliases and everything is plainly stated.

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Post by Givenchy on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:41 pm

The fact that you're scumreading the cleanest player in the game (Yves) and one of the most pro-town (myself) just reinforces my confidence that an Armani lynch is the best today.

All in favor say aye.

Although I wouldn't even say that I'm 100% clean, paranoia's sinking in but I feel like Marchesa might be buddying

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Marchesa on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:51 pm

Aye. 

@ Bulgari and Chanel, I'm not letting phase end without some actual content posts from you, no more active lurking. You're going to state who you intend to lynch and build a case on them

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Post by Vivienne Westwood on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:22 pm

Armani wrote:
Finally, it is a compulsive ability so I have to use it Night 1 where the is little to no information.
Does this mean you are restricted to use it night 1?

Marchesa wrote:
I'm leaning towards a Bulgari lynch at the moment pending further discussion on Burberry's ability as the situation is pretty complicated. I think Bulgari is a safe option.
Why Bulgari? I don't think I have seen a case on him.

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Re: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Post by Marchesa on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:33 pm

They've been active lurking all game. Armani's post above fully swung me to lynching him instead though

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