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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Hammering because we aren't getting anything more out of this day phase.

I very much doubt I'll be the NK but just in case.

If Armani flips Mafia Seraph knight then scum is 2 of [Bulgari/Chanel/Viv], if Armani flips some other scum role then Burberry is also a possibility.

I expect Armani to flip Mafia Seraph Knight though so...

Viv's role is very easily provable so they are 99% a gladiator, whether they are scum or town gladiator is the question, I don't see scum having a daybig and a gladiator, even if the dayvig is restricted. So scum I think is Bulgari and Chanel/Viv.

Leaning Chanel currently but there is a case to be made on both, this post by Bulgari 

Bulgari wrote:Armani feels town to me. 

Remaining scum is in the realm of [Yves, Marchesa, Chanel]. Everyone else looks fairly like town to me with the exception Vivienne, who I can't get a feel for one way or the other.


has Chanel labelled scum but Viv labelled null, the reads on me and YVes are obviously scum motivated in the same way Armani's are, as they know they are getting lynched and this game is coming down to Chanel v Viv.

The question is, are they labelling Chanel scum to push suspicion on to Viv?

Valentino was insistent that Chanel could not be scum because of the dayvig, this was when they first claimed and no one was really questioning them, I don't think this was Valentino whiteknighting a townie, as they were under no trigger to do this.

Furthermore the dayvig on Tif didn't really make sense as town, as Zara pointed out, i remember Chanel dodging this question. Unfortunately, that Chanel has replaced out and is no longer answerable to this.

So yeah, leaning Chanel as final scum but it's still very much up in the air. So pressure on Viv just as much as Chanel.

vote Armani
by Marchesa
on Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:58 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Armani wrote:Also, with all three scum already on my wagon at least town will be the deciding factor that we lose this game.


I was going to do a full response to this post, but then I decided to just quote this and leave it here.
by Marchesa
on Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:02 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Vivienne Westwood wrote:
Givenchy wrote:Vivienne what makes you think Burb and Armani are both scum? And don't say "they could be bussing" that isn't an argument.

I don't have an argument for it, it's merely a thought.
Since Zara claimed about night 3, it doesn't make sense for both of them to be clean. And since I don't really know enough to choose the target for today's lynch, I just think of alternatives to help you guys make judgement on the correct lynch.

If I get to choose, personally, I think Burberry is scum because there is never a double kill in one night (and I doubt our chances).


[size=12.727272033691406]I feel like Vivienne is trying to push the Armani/Burberry scum thing really arbitrarily, as if they're keeping options open for a Burberry lynch but still allowing themselves to bus Armani if needed. [/size]

[size=12.727272033691406]Like here they say "it's just a thought" but then build a case on Burberry based on their claim.[/size]

[size=12.727272033691406]<48 hours to deadline so we should be starting the Armani wagon. Chanel your vote would be appreciated.[/size]
by Marchesa
on Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:54 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

So you think Yves could be a godfather neighbour?
Why do you see Chanel as scummy?
by Marchesa
on Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:05 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Marchesa wrote:Who do think is scum?
Who do you think is the best lynch for today?


Also Chanel you're answering these
by Marchesa
on Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:02 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

I think it came from Ray-Ban not being vanillaised and the fact that for Valentino's results and Alex's results to be true then there was either a godfather neighbour or a redirector.

We now know that Louis was rolebblocked and val was scum.

What do you think of Armani?
Who do you think the other two scum are?
by Marchesa
on Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:55 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Reread day 4 to now. When Valentino first claimed and everyone trusted her, she was adamant Chanel was town due to their role. Also, Zara made a good point just after Gucci bombed Val, if Chanel is town, it means we have 2 one shot day killers.

So anyone doubting Chanel is scum based on their role should take that in to account.
by Marchesa
on Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:05 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Looking at Louis' ISO he tried to vanillaise Rayban and it failed, I think that's where the confusion is coming from, you however he intended to vanillaise
by Marchesa
on Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:18 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Armani is just trying to avoid any associative tells
by Marchesa
on Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:39 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

They've been active lurking all game. Armani's post above fully swung me to lynching him instead though
by Marchesa
on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:33 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Aye. 

@ Bulgari and Chanel, I'm not letting phase end without some actual content posts from you, no more active lurking. You're going to state who you intend to lynch and build a case on them
by Marchesa
on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:51 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Yves and I already established that Givenchy's claim makes them 100% clean. The fact that you're just calling everyone who wants your lynch scum plus the flip flop on me shows are caught scum flailing.

I was still tentative until now but Armani should definitely be our lynch today.

Bulgari and Chanel are probably the last 2. I don't believe Chanel at all when they say that missed their dayvig being restricted to day 3 in their role pm. These roles have no flavour outside the aliases and everything is plainly stated.
by Marchesa
on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:55 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Yves Saint Laurent wrote:im leaning on burberry and viv as town, but the thing lucifer said about the modkill almost made me rethink it. because it would have a significant impact on the game if bulgari was modkilled as scum whereas it wouldnt be as significant as if they were modkilled as town.


I have some thoughts on this but we probably shouldn't be analysing mod threats
by Marchesa
on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:54 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

@-Armani,

Who do you think are the other 2 scum? If you need to provided us a "2 of the following" list that's fine, just try to put them in some sort of priority order.

I'm leaning towards a Bulgari lynch at the moment pending further discussion on Burberry's ability as the situation is pretty complicated. I think Bulgari is a safe option.
by Marchesa
on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:03 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

As a product of my sheer boredom and my frustration with how slow this game is moving I've decided to do this pretty little VCA, whether it will be useful i don't know, once we get a couple more flips it could be helpful.



Day 1


Miu Miu (13) - Burberry, Vivienne Westwood, Dior, Valentino, Chanel, Kate Spade, Ray-Ban, Alexander McQueen, Tiffany, Louis Vuitton, Fendi, Bulgari, Marchesa
Louis Vuitton (3) - Gucci, Versace
Hermès (2) - Prada, Yves Saint Laurent
Armani (2) - Jimmy Choo, Hermès
Kate Spade (1) - Givenchy
Tiffany (1) - Miu Miu
Valentino (1) - Armani



Not Voting (2) - Vera Wang, Zara



Day 2


Louis Vuitton (Cool - Hermès, Versace, Burberry, Ray-Ban, Givenchy, Vera Wang, Jimmy Choo
Ray-Ban (5) - Bulgari, Chanel, Tiffany, Prada, Louis Vuitton
Tiffany (4) - Alexander McQueenFendi, Kate Spade, Valentino
Jimmy Choo (1) - Yves Saint Laurent


Not Voting (5) - Armani, Gucci, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood, Zara



Day 3


Louis Vuitton (10) - Versace, Vera Wang, Yves Saint Laurent, Jimmy Choo, Prada, Burberry, Fendi, Valentino, Ray-Ban
Jimmy Choo (1) - Armani
Ray-Ban (1) - Louis Vuitton
Valentino (1) - Givenchy


Not Voting (7) - Alexander McQueen, Bulgari, Chanel, Gucci, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood, Zara



Day 4


Ray-Ban (9) - Givenchy, Burberry, Chanel, Vivienne Westwood, Valentino, Alexander McQueen, Prada, Bulgari, Yves Saint Laurent
Prada (3) - Versace, Ray-Ban
Burberry (2) - Gucci, Vera Wang
Alexander McQueen (1) - Jimmy Choo
Jimmy Choo (1) - Armani


Not Voting (2) - Marchesa, Zara

Day 5

Alexander McQueen (Cool - Valentino, Yves Saint Laurent, Armani, Burberry, Bulgari, Chanel, Givenchy, Jimmy Choo
Valentino (3) - Prada, Vivienne Westwood, Gucci
Burberry (1) - Alexander McQueen

Not Voting (3) - Marchesa, Vera Wang, Zara



Day 6



Burberry (3) - Givenchy, Zara, Prada
Prada (3) - Jimmy Choo, Burberry, Yves Saint Laurent
Yves Saint Laurent (1) - Bulgari

Not Voting (4) - Armani, Chanel, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood



Day 7



Prada (6) - Yves Saint Laurent, Givenchy, Burberry, Armani, Zara, Bulgari
Burberry (1) - Prada

Not Voting (3) - Chanel, Marchesa, Vivienne Westwood
by Marchesa
on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:40 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

[size=12.727272033691406]Louis verified that he vanillaised Armani.[/size]


[size=12.727272033691406]For Burberry's claim to be true, they either have a form of protection that is not Armani or Prada's JOAT has to have prevented her kill somehow.[/size]


[size=12.727272033691406]If Armani does flip Mafia Seraph Knight then that would clean Burberry as that is town's only killing role.[/size]


So in regards to Armani and Burberry there are a few possibilities

Armani is telling the truth, Burberry is scum
Armani is Mafia Seraph Knight, Burberry is clean
Armani is some other mafia role, Burberry is scum
Armani is some other mafia role, mafia have another form of protection, Burberry is telling the truth

I want to hear from Burberry and Givenchy in regards to the new info about the nature of a serpah knights protection. 

Burberry has been in the game since the start and Givenchy subbed in a lot earlier than I did so they might think of possibilities I haven't or might be able to tell me if I am wrong on anything. Givenchy in particular I want to hear from
by Marchesa
on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:31 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Burberry wrote:I am not totally townreading Givenchy though because her claim is weird to me.


How does her claim not clean her? Having a pair of unrequited lovers makes no sense, there must be at least one more, nobody has counter claimed so Givenchy is 100% clean
by Marchesa
on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:11 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

@ Lucifer, is deadline Friday or Saturday
by Marchesa
on Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:21 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

That means there would have had to be another form of protection to prevent the kill on Prada.

So 2 questions I want everyone to answer:

Who do think is scum?
Who do you think is the best lynch for today?
by Marchesa
on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:14 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

this question will be inevitable so

@lucifer- If a Seraph Knight is vannillaised does their protection disappear?
by Marchesa
on Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:06 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Yves has a point about a mafia Seraph Knight only needing to exist if town had a role with the ability to night kill and Burberry is the only one to have claimed this. So if Armani flips scum wouldn't Burberry be clean?

The only other thing that comes to mind is the traitor had a separate kill and it being used for that seems highly unlikely with there only being one kill each night.

Also, has Armani ever claimed who their protection is/was on?
by Marchesa
on Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:32 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

The redirect on to Armani could have come from Prada's passive jack of all trades.

Also, I wasn't in the game at the time but had Louis claimed vanillaiser at the point that Armani was vanillaised?

Another possibility is that they thought Louis was going to target one of the scum and as Armani's Seraph Knight protection stayed after a vannilaise, they redirected it to him as they weren't losing anything plus they could set this up later where we are doubting that Armani is scum due to the vanillaise.
by Marchesa
on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:45 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Another thing that makes me hesitant is that if Burberry was scum. Why kill Zara when going into MYLO? I think Burberry can wait a little longer, I'm more comfortable getting Armani today
by Marchesa
on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:14 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

I'm still torn on Burberry despite everything, it seems we all agree Armani is scum, is anyone opposed to lynching Armani?
by Marchesa
on Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:08 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Prada's flip makes the Burberry stuff possible but Givenchy is right there's just so much to explain
by Marchesa
on Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:48 pm
 
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