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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Days 1, 2, 3.1
Hi ja so tiff is probably scumReally what valentino and rayban said is all legit
I don't think we can lynch her today.
This is dinkum with louis claiming vanillaiser. Personal experience have seen (not been) a game with vanillaiser thrice and only one time was it mafia but I think none of the tomes it was compulsory. I feel it's something of a coinflip to determine his alignment based on that claim, especially if there are negative kinda roles in the game - e.g. Dior's role
I think I still want this lynch to go through because of louis' play and the mutual chainsaw defence between he and tiffany.
Yeah please people read and vote! : )
- on Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:44 pm
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Hey I'm just dropping in quick (will be back maybe ten hours from now and intermittently till deadline) but was feeling a couple thoughts;Really think Louis is scum.
And seriously; don't be afraid of a louis lynch because "it (a wagon on him) might not form in time".
I, and others, want this to happen and I think it can happen. Just need some commitment and I guess a bit of a willingness to vote and even briefly check what's happening up to deadline from players and we should be good.
Furthermore and I guess more generally if you come online and you have something to say - you think even slightly might be worthwhile - go for it!
cyaaa round : )
- on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:02 am
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Yeah wynaut post this! : )HIIIIII!
So let's just have a look at something;
I was reading louis' posts cause ~ I think he's scum aye and I saw this read;
Louis wrote:Burberry(town): Another player whose posts seemed logicial and when I iso'd them, nothing popped up to give me any bad feelings about them
And I was like "woah, didn't I call someone else out on saying that they townread someone because of no bad feelings?"
YES! -> Dior. So I whipped out the post;
Dior wrote:Burberry- Town. A quick iso didn't turn up anything, and I'm getting a serious town vibe anyway.
Anyway so I felt as if Louis just said the same thing Dior did so I whipped out their reads posts. And I mean of course they're not the exact same but looks;
- Dior's reads from pages 16 (Alex - Chanel) & 20 (Fendi - Tiff):
- Dior wrote:Reads, woo. Or only some of them. Whatever.
Alexander McQueen- Null, they haven't really done much. Seriously, about half of their posts are talking about potential post restrictions on Tiffany and Viv.
Armani- All he's done is defend himself, beyond that too inactive for any real read. Null. The first part of that post Chanel pressured him over had a good point, but then they went the other way and suggested we wait which isn't cool. Still, that's not enough at all to form a read.
Bulgari- Hmm, that initial vote on Tiffany wasn't great, since I don't agree there's enough to jump to that conclusion, and if you're pressuring them, why would you not give them something to respond to? The delayed explanation for the vote isn't so great either.
I'll check Tiffany's recent posts in relation to the point you raise about parroting when I get around to her. Also I don't think it's accurate to say that the second post you linked is asserting post length as a basis for a vote. I will say though, I don't think Tiffany ever gave a legit reason for the Hermes vote, and if she did, she certainly delayed giving it, which is interesting, since that's the basis for any issue one might have with Bulgari. Read is Null, maybe slight scum, there's not a lot to go off.
Burberry- Town. A quick iso didn't turn up anything, and I'm getting a serious town vibe anyway.
Chanel- Not much that's scummy here. Main things that stand out are calling out Miu for not laying down a vote then doing likewise, and boring into Armani. I'm not thinking much of the former, and the latter simply appears to be a solid attempt to pressure an inactive player into posting which kind of worked (Since Armani responded but is inactive again). Nothing much to say, not getting a strong gut read either way. I'll take null-slight town.
Fendi- Yeah his earlier posts and pushing Tiffany over that 3rd person business were shitty and looked scummy to me, his recent posts are much improved in terms of content, but he's really only targeted Miu and Vera, and his line of thought does still seem to follow other players. Looking for him to start commenting on other players, until then slight scum.
Givenchy- Null, inactive.
Gucci- Null, inactive.
Hermes- hmm interesting. Possible points against them are the way they overreacted imo to that Valentino post and Versace's joke (that's not claiming scum). Also, that really emotional reaction to Valentino earlier was strange. However, this does not seem too bad to me as overall they've resembled an aggressive town- very active, looking for scum all that. Too early for a proper read on the sub. Overall town though
Jimmy Choo- Obviously new, his very first substantial post reveals that by thinking to just leap straight out of RVS like that. Until he started pushing Bulgari, he was spending all of his time talking about scum tactics and how he's trying to spark discussion rather than actually scumhunting. Then the vote on Bulgari... there are some legit points there, namely avoiding giving any justification for a vote, but the rest of your reasoning is just poor, I mean getting hung up on a question mark is just dumb, and you can say that it suggests developing a read before finding the reasoning for it, which is scummy. So yeah, leaning scum.
Kate Spade- Null inactive. Meta is always pretty shaky reasoning in anon imo though.
Louis Vuitton- Leaning scum. Every post of his seems to be fence sitting or wishy-washy. He's really vague about his votes and motives- doesn't really give any reasoning for suspecting Miu, says Ray ban is his top scumread at one point despite saying nothing about him beyond that he's under the radar and not posting.
Marchesa- Null? An iso showed that they can provide some decent reasoning, but the majority of their posts are fluff, and though they've said a handful of good things, they haven't actually been scumhunting (I mean they haven't placed a vote or anything!)
Miu Miu- Scum. Do I have to post more about Miu? I swear I've posted enough, but w/e. Early-game fits the cautious scum archetype perfectly, took a lot of pressure to do any scumhunting, and even that wasn't very good.
Prada- Null/Slight scum. They haven't posted much, but the way they've approached the game has been extremely lazy and apathetic.
Ray-Ban- Null. They simply haven't posted enough, though it isn't really cool how they've barely commented on the game despite some pressure and now they're wagoning without any kind of commentary or reasoning (something they called Prada out on I noticed). Still, not yet enough.
Tiffany- Leaning scum. Lot of fluff posting and not a lot of scumhunting. Seems willing to agree with anyone over most things- Basically the only thing they've taken any kind of stand on is this Bulgari vote, which has seen some pretty poor reasoning, and in her more recent posts seems to be twisting words or interpreting them falsely.
Since I'm seeing an emerging trend in my reads list (a relatively high number of people who I'm tempted to read as scum), I kinda want to undo my read on Jimmy Choo, as I'm going to end up with plenty of scumreads, and I'll admit there's a decent possibility that he isn't scum due to a viable alternative explanation.
Though his play does have its share of oddities, an alternative explanation is that he is newbie town who is trying but isn't really sure how to go about it, an explanation which does fit with the 2 oddities in his play, namely the discussion of scum tactics in place of scumhunting and the reasoning on Bulgari, part of which was a huge stretch.
and then read this bad boy
- Louis' reads from pages 21 (Alex - HerMEs) & 22 (Jimmy choo - Zara):
- KAAANYE DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING! wrote:Alexander McQueen(null): He doesn't have a very large amount of content and their wasn't enough to get a read on him either way looking at his ISO.
Armani(scummy): I don't like how he has only focused on one post by Valentino in RVS. I get that the post is slightly scummy, but he has not developed his argument at all and all his posts are just rehashes of his original argument. Also once Chanel says that she likes the way he responded to her accusations Armani drops completely off the map. I don't like that at all.
Bulgari(town): I like her posts and she seems to have a firm grasp on the game. Nothing in her posts seem to give me any bad vibes, so I am getting a town lean from her.
Burberry(town): Another player whose posts seemed logicial and when I iso'd them, nothing popped up to give me any bad feelings about them.
Chanel(town): A town read again. I like how Chanel has been scum hunting and trying to get people to provide justifications for their actions.
Dior(town): Solid posts the whole time and has put a lot of effort into moving the town forward.
Fendi(null): Outside of the one long post about Miu Miu and Vera Wang she hasn't posted much. I do look forward to her iso of Tiffany as it should give us a bit more to go off of with regards to her posting.
Givenchy(inactive): nothing to go off of
Gucci(inactive): nothing of substance posted
Hermes(null): Hermes is interesting. The first player on the account striked me as a bit off, but I think the second player has done a good job of reversing that and I have them at a null read for now.
Jimmy Choo(town): He has made solid points and seems to be twon aligned.
Kate Spade(inactive): Has not posted enough to get a read either way.
Marchesa(null): I dont like her fluff posts with Tiffany in the middle that derailed the thread a bit. Beside that she has posted some good things, but I'm not willing to put her as a full town read yet, as I we are still waiting for her promised read through that she hasn't posted in almost two days.
Miu Miu(scum): This has been hashed and rehashed a ton, and I see her as the most likely vote for day 1.
Prada(inactive): She has 1 post longer than 2 lines and really hasn't contributed anything to this game.
Ray-Ban(scum): I don't like how he responded to mine and others questions this game and he seems to be trying to avoid the spotlight as best as possible. He also made a promise to take a look at people on the main wagon and do some analysis, but instead of doing that just threw a post on Miu Miu and sulked away from posting any content.
Tiffany(town): Just over the course of the game she has always seemed town to me. I don't have the time to do a full read through of all her posts, but that has been my gut feeling this whole time.
Valentino(town): She has had some nice posts and im getting a town vibe from her.
Vera Wang(scum): Her outburst last night was odd to the say the least. I think this definitely merits a closer eye in the proceeding day.
Versace(town): I don't like how he decided to consider us both using the same playerlist from the OP as scummy, but besides that his posts have been relatively solid and easy to understand.
Vivienne Westwood(town): If you look past the rhyming I think her posts have brought up a few good points and I have as a town read for now.
Yves Saint Laurent(inactive): ...
Zara(another inactive): ...!
Please read those two first if you have time (if not just read some of them side-by-side (look at dior's then kanye's or vice versa really doesn't matter). Then think about them geniunely.
Tell me if I'm going conf bias but; They feel the same. Not all the reads are the same obv but reading their reads on say Marchesa's and Fendi's and even mine - maybe half of them - I feel as if louis has done little work to actually read people. Looks like dior's reads with less effort. Especially when you think of the language and the kind of lack of analysis there.
So yeah Louis is scum because I feel as if he didn't work on those reads at all and just lemmingsed them off others: dior obv and versace (others? didn't have time to look) a bit. Town can do that but then he said: "There are some of my reads. I'll finish isoing everyone a bit later. I've been doing this for over an hour and need a break." If the results of long isos are those that are extremely similar to others and very brief... I dunno what to say. I see his posts and it seems there's no fight, there's no will to truly find out if someone is scum or town but rather he defers to see what other people say - (universal reads eh) - and go with that, with the exception of maybe the tiff read but even then kanye was willing to vote her after six others and after Tiff had apparently been "dropping off the face of the planet".
I'm a bit miffed about some of what's happened today, so this louis lynch is really what I think should happen.
Anyway I should head off
bye chaps
- on Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:43 pm
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@Jimmy Choo. Regarding Louis I don't think he voted armani at the end of the day - rather the start of the next day but yeah I feel almost as if he was saying "well we have to lynch miu miu guys, I wanted to get ray-ban, but miu miu is kinda scummy and probably gonna be lynched so yeah let's do that" : SAlso what do you think of his reads list @Jimmy Choo? Is that what you were referring to when you said "strong posts with analysis of players" ?
- on Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:10 pm
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Ok outside of tiff people should stop claiming for now I think! Seriously. It likely will not be helpful this early in the game especially not certainly/even with good possibility knowing no. of nightkills and junk like that.I don't know what I think of this and I'm coming with another post in a bit. I want to leave considering voting amongst the neighbours for a bit (i.e. not today)
@Jimmy Choo: could you do reads of valentino, vivienne westwood, louis, burberry and mcqueen?
- on Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:39 pm
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@Jimmy Choo: I don't understand what you're saying therethree neighbours? but you don't know one anothers alignment?
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what the junk....- on Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:29 pm
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hi! @@@@versace please be therein THIS POST
You meant louis, tiffany and fendi correct?
- on Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:28 pm
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Also Rayban ISO revealed nothing I didn't really know beforeactually dinks
I'm being bugged by something;
@Rayban - in addition to my other question why did you post so scarcely day 1?
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Yeah cool it's just the way you post makes it sound as if you are very strong confident in most, if not all your, reads so giving us some openness of where you're at is helpful for all : )And I feel as if Tiff has laid claim to a bit of experience - but will Iso to confirm this
Also I guess now that you're here I'm telling you I'm not really feeling kate spade as scum; Can't see them coming out with stuff and arguments and growing activity as game goes on as scum. Like the flippiness they have had may be scummy but it's not scum motivated idek
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hiya! : )@Valentino: truly, how confident are you in the scum read on ray-ban?
@versace: Could you do a list of where you stand on everyone again? If you put reasoning or not I really do not mind just want to know what you are thinking on all.
I might try throw one up myself (with potentially short-or-hopes-just-not-long descriptions/reasoning!?) before the day is over.
@rayban: why did you target tiffany last night?
more incoming but wanted to ask that junks first!
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Ok just thought about it;Safe play is to have tiff claim but if ray is scum it is better to just lynch him.
That's what people should think about.
I don't think I be confident enough to do that though so I want a tiff claim.
Or we could lynch louis js : )
Ok I will probably go now
- on Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:33 am
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Mcqueen I meant wasn't a fan of their dropping in last post and generally their on/off aggressiveness and talking about easy to talk about stuff (i.e. reads/angles other people have on players everyone talking about)- on Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:27 am
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Hey been a tad busy lately + on my phone but yeaaahAnyway so;
we definitely do need to do something about the inactives. I mean I really don't mind if we go after them as soon as day three starts and willing to take it all the way. But it needs to be purposeful or else nothing will happen.
As I said before my thoughts are on Yves as the most scummy, but that gut feel is probably less confident now as I don't find much evidence over that of gucci and zara. I mean now I'm imaging zara's stuff as most likely scum motivated - although all three can be seen as that anyway...
Just trying to think out/sort out most likely scenario's in my head but I need more time.
McQueen's activity is almost random
Just can't quote it but wasn't a fan of their drop in last post aggressiveness on players that are under suspicion already
Regarding tiff v ray ban. I dunno man. Still tossing up whether I want a tiff claim or not and her inability to access is kinda lame.
@fendi: thoughts on them are probably still similar to my latest post on them.
I may iso both tomorrow : )
@rayban were there any kind of modifiers in your role name?
Such as suicidal (innocent child)?
@Chanel: what do you think of valentino, fendi, jimmy choo and bulgari?
Not liking burberry infrequency of posting or bulgari's absence much. Not that I think they're scum but eh it's pretty dinkum annoying. Guys please if you can be more active, be more active.
Also I think that not posting for twenty-four hours =/= "dropping off the face of the planet". That louis, then chanel and fendi all kind of use that language is weird.
Will be on in about eight hours but superbowl so yeaaah.
Anyways;
My scum list at the moment looks like this; [The this guy or (/) that guy bits are more "I doubt there are that many scum in the game but one is probablt scum" than "one or the other must be scum" in relative confidence order]
~ louis
~ armani
~ inactive(s) - maybe two now that I think on it (leaning yves still)
~ rayban / tiff (one of these)
~ mcqueen
~ prada / viv / marchesa (one of these)
Cool cyaaaa : )
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Actually @tiff could you do a reads list with at least brief stuff on 50% of the game. I don't care what format just don't know what you dinkum think about many players- on Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:13 am
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My thoughts on rayban probably dependent on next post of hisPurely based on his posts I think he's scum but ermmmm
regarding tiff still trying to navigate this fendi / tiff tiff and just other weird interactons she has.
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Hi!I think ray-ban should hard(er) claim + give result from night one. or else
Jimmy Choo pretty jumpy but can't see scum making that response. They be pretty null to me these days.
Keep posting reads fellas.
Louis doesn't even address his tiffany vote when he gets back on to rayban... like what the heck. We're still here.
@Fendi were you asking me that question before? You said "Speaking of hermes" - then you asked tiff something : S
Also answer my question m8 please. Like not even joking
Here it is again
"@fendi: how experienced are you with mafia? It's not that specific so please answer"
Also be on for a bit to do some q & a~!!!!!
byeeaaa
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Also @Zara next time you post can you answer this question please: are there any players that you think are acting scummy?- on Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:38 pm
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unvote Yves Saint Laurentvote Louis
Seems like such dinkum arbitrary reasoning for voting someone you were defending most of day 1. After the wagon you said you wanted became *questionable*
Anyway next time you post could you answer this @Yves Saint Laurent: is there anyone you want to vote?
hi versace
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Ermmm serious question so what is the point of the vote?If that makes sense
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How strong is your read on tiff there @louis?- on Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:26 pm
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@tiff; dankeeh @valentino and all really: I think that Dior's scum reads were more like this;
In a relative order;
~ Miu miu - scum
~ Tiffany - scummy
~ Louis - scummy but relatively inactive
~ Prada - similar to louis but a bit more
~ Fendi - slight scum
~ Bulgari - maybe slight scum
~ Marchesa/Jimmy Choo - maybe null-scum
I guess there is also the possibility that her death was triggered and some other random stuff happened: Suicidal roles @ mafiascum wiki
And I don't want to talk about too much but both these things are worth thinking over.
Anyway quick iso of Rayban after what Prada said yielded this and because I wasn't feeling great about him;
pg. 3
Ray-Ban wrote:You ever doubted i rock bruv?
Say I'm gonna Vote: Zara see?
pg. 4
Ray-Ban wrote:Yo Zara, i's got mah vote on ya and ya know I's a scum hunting god so you's best be givin' some legit reason yo ain't scum.
Ray-Ban wrote:Also Zara ah know you've been here an' aren't voting so iz dere any reason you choosing not ta take part in dis 'ere random voting stage like?
pg. 8
Ray-Ban wrote:Yo 6 days left fo' this day means we's should prob'ly be getting someone closer ta uh lynch ya get mah?
Vote jimmy choo
Is there an easy way of seeing all of someone’s posts? I can’t find any way to do so.
Really don't like the random pressure. I mean he's gotta be joking, which is a scummy thing to do because it's just random pressure with a RVS vote followed up with comments with no purpose. Just a fake kind of "guys get this guy" which scum think they can get away with in the RVS. He could be serious, but then he doesn't follow up on it later so I don't think that's feasible...?
I mean this isn't the biggest thing and I guesss this is also in part from anecdotal evidence I have but ehh bad feels.
These are who I wanna get these days;
Yes Armani, Louis,
Yes? Yves Saint
Yes?? Prada, Ray-Ban
Maybe Tiff/Fendi (still working on these two) and some other maybes but not bothered you probably know who they are
@Fendi answer my q please : )
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What, from your point of view, in their ISO makes bulgari look town?- on Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:05 am
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