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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

because burberry is scum
by Valentino
on Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:54 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Zara wrote:@Valentino, you have said that you claimed 2-shot sensor so that the mafia would think you were now helpless, and thus you could live longer, presumably getting more information as well. However, you eventually changed your claim to odd-night sensor. The timing being such that approaching an even night, your claim stood as 2-shot, while when approaching an odd night, your claim was odd-night. This does not make sense given the context of fake claiming to stay alive longer. Regardless of it you were a 2-shot or an odd-night sensor, when approaching night 4 you would have been unable to make an action. However, when approaching night 5, being 2-shot would mean you were still worthless while being odd-night would make you dangerous. And yet, when it didn't matter, you claimed 2-shot, and when being 2-shot was the better option for survival, your supposed goal, you claimed odd-night. What is a rational conclusion for this? The only logical conclusion I can reach is that, given the contradiction between your and Alex's claim, approaching the day 5 lynch, you being 2-shot meant you could be lynched easily to figure out which player was correct. As 2-shot, you would be either an effective VT or a Scum, while Alex would be either a PR or a Scum, compared to if you were an odd-night, then it made the day 5 lynch between two strong PRs. Given these options, it makes it seem like you were more concerned with surviving the town then the mafia, which is contrary to your stated goal.

i claimed 2 shot sensor because i needed to get the information out without immediately taking target from scum. that WAS the plan, but during the day ALEXANDER came in and revealed szresults that suddenly started with people scumreading me and of course i was fucking confused. i got my results out, and someone's results that completely disagree with mine suddenly scumread me? or course ill defend myself. there was a wagon forming on me and yeah, i value my sensor because mafiascum said it was an extremely strong ability thats why i had to make it that i had no charges anymore. it is a bit disappointing because for both my early results the mafia seems to have had control of the votes and they didnt all have to wagon on some person. my goal with the 2 shot claim was to 1, look VT so that ill be the least unappealing person to kill at that point. I tried to speculate so little because i didnt have time lol and that i actually needed to pull off another sensor because we are just mislynching person after person. i dont know what else to say, i will case up and start scumreading people for trying to go against my results without actual logic (like millers and redirects which im actually starting to believe now). these are MY results, it does not change what happens whether im lynched or not, and the only ones to doubt those now are those who will be lynched due to the results, which means they will do their best to discredit the information i have.

redirect is very likely a scum role, but im having difficulty catching up because of work and all.

Marchesa wrote:Thank you Prada.

Right now I'm thinking a Valentino or Burberry lynch is best. If we lynch Burberry (who has a lot of suspicion surrounding them), we either hit scum or get a conf. scum based on their flip.

If we lynch Valentino either we hit scum or we can surmise scum from their results, if Valentino is town, scum will have to kill them N7 unless they think they get a mislynch despite the information Valentino will reveal, which seems unlikely as the information could out the entire scumteam.

im probably going to die next night or something which kind of sucks. i really dont like that im still being entertained for a lynch because its pretty scary that at this point mafia can dictate who to wagon on because weve lynched 0 so far.


my paranoia right now
- mafia will pile up on me and mislynch on the basis that my results are fake (which they are not)
- mafia will misdirect the POE to the only other town lynch so they could win

i dont think burberry will flip anything other than scum, but for the following nights the second option will most likely happen.

i think now is the perfect time to massclaim (or wait tomorrow0 after burberry flip)

by Valentino
on Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:51 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

more content to work with

burberry's claim just wants me to lynch them more, that claim seems like one caughtscum would make especially when they crumb at the tip of the day when the flip would definitely incriminate him from poe

anyways @ yves armani claimed SERAPH something which is basically a permanent bodyguard on ONE person but they were vanillised by rayban (this is what i remember).

by Valentino
on Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:55 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

lol! 


these emotes look like garbage vote burberry

from yesterday's poe he is confirmed scum
by Valentino
on Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:51 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Alexander McQueen (Cool - Valentino, Yves Saint Laurent, Armani, Burberry, Bulgari, Chanel, Givenchy, Jimmy Choo

there are 4 scum on this wagon

i dont know how to defend myself onsidering alex flipped scum, but i can guarantee you that 1 of the neighbors is a miller

it is literally impossible at this point for the remaining 2 to be town. its weird as well that one of the neighbors were killed, especially the most useless one.

i dont know who to trust right now because every flip ive pushed has turned out wrong and im still alive at this point of the game so it must be that im townreading the wrong people and im being kept alive as a lynch fodder for lynches pushed by others which im on

by Valentino
on Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:50 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

Jimmy Choo wrote:Burberry lynch that last day was very scummy. Everyone followed Valentino's results on it. YSL and Gucci. Reads should have played more of a part on one of the most town people all game.

BTW Alex posting throughout the following after Valentino's claim with things like dont include the neighbours.

Valentino fails to provide anything on her vote on Burberry.

@ Vivienne could you explain your first Day 4 post please?

If people dont want to listen to me about lynching prada then just see Versace's Day 4 posts ... and no one listened to him.

Prada wrote:
Do you even read?

er
i would say swap alex with valentino and visa versa but that isnt really what i want to find out...

burberry has been in all mislynches
burberry is misrepresenting the information im giving yet STILL STICKING to it. basically what shes doing is following my results that there are scum on wagon, but is deflecting it on the person who actually gave the results for the scum on that wagon

i honestly dont understand why i have to fucking explain anything. ive read back in this game like thrice now in different threads yet people are still adamant on crumbs and claims and why x is scummy for voting y

you are all fucking annoying for skimping out on information just because someone is misinterpretting them
by Valentino
on Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:35 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

i needed to make it seem like i was shotless because if i fullclaim as odd night when i had the results then mafia will kill me knowing im still a threat to scum

the entire reason i had to reveal results was because 1, im certain that ive caught scum and 2, NOT outing what i have may lead to me being utterly powerless

@Jimmy i cant leave scum guessing and out to them which one is true or not, so i am actually the odd night

the 2shot was solely to make it seem like im out of charges

you can see that i didnt contribute discussion on my results because 1, that would just paint me target for scum and 2, i wasnt active then and couldnt really commit. i needed to stay alive tho
by Valentino
on Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:33 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

givenchy, i would prefer a burberry lynch if alex  wagon is not in full steam.

burberry has been in the butt of all mislynches and immediately retaliates on me for hypocrital reasons, i think in all scenarios of scum on the remaining lynch pool, burberry is the confscum.

i do like that people are finally waking up to alexscum. Im kind of going for burberry due to the rayban interaction and her sudden drop to the scumlist (she just fell off from early town to just bad intentions on all lynches and reads)

my paranoia here is that people will ignore the 50/50 because that wont guarantee a scumlynch, which puts them in the same situation we were before. right now i can see that alex is a scumlynch and for all outcomes and partnership that burberry is accomplice. so either of their lynches im fine with.

we need to prioritize our lynches because were heading to mylo soon
by Valentino
on Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:36 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

either i am lying, or alexander is.

i have full confidence in my resulst so BY DEFAULT alexander is lying.

the only ever possible way that alexaner can be telling the truth is if
1. he inspected miller neighbors
2. his cop is a variant of some sort
3. my sensor is flawed in a way (there was someone in my results that is hidden or reverse miller)

the role flavors in modifiers in this game incline me to start thinking that maybe he might not be lying, but how the wagon immediately formed on me WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY MAFIA THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FLIPPED that im positive that my results incited drastic plays like this fake result + wagon

once we lynch today, itll just chain reaction and POE to find mafs
by Valentino
on Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:43 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

yeah so givenchy is possibly a scumpartner for alexander
by Valentino
on Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:54 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

givenchy

shes just asking people shit rather than generating her own
by Valentino
on Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:56 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

Givenchy wrote:Jimmy do you really think that having a "maybe" 1/3 chance of hitting scum is the best use of an inspect?

I'd really love for Alex to come on because I have a ton of questions for him. I'll let him answer my first set first though.

Valentino: why is Burberry as sure of scum as Alex?
How powerful do you think your role is?

ill answer for jimmy cos you dont seem to have any opinions of ur own

one, he inspected THRICE in this game, all being TOWN in the neighbors. take a long moment to understand the context of the game and the roles in play at the moment. dont have other peoples replies fill in the blanks for u, u do it. the more trust how a person replies to a speific thing is how hes going to try and deceive you. the information is right in front of you and you asking him is just making you look bad because rather than making your own reads your estimating how he will reply incase you want to bus him or not.

my role is very powerful but it has its flaws. one, scum is definitely not piling on any lynch. they are capable of not piling on wagons and having it push, meaning competent scum are in harge of pushing for wagons (BURBERRY)

ive already been limited to odd night, and for fear that ill die i had to reveal the information beause its how town wins at this point. i cant really do much except hope that my case has more sense than their lies.

i am WELL AWARE of how my role works and the only way that my information will not be true is if 1, the results are bastardized which i know seb wont do (unless he did)
@Seb is this a bastard game?
the only way i can see alex town in any way is if he is a variant of inspector or one of the neighbors are reverse millers or something, but i am NOT COUNTING AT THAT AT ALL.

in all scenarios, im 100% sure burberry is scum
by Valentino
on Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:53 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

my vote on kate spade was because his reasoning to vote miu miu was solely the fact that "THIS GUY IS FINCHINATOR" which is a stupid reason to get on the wagon.

justifying a bad vote with a worse reason gets u a scumread. you might look down on me for being part of some of the mislynches but im working my best to contribute to town nwo because those lynches are pretty improtant to my role.

miu miu lynch gave me a bit to work with because i knew there was scum on that wagon so i looked for people on the wagon who had bad reasons to hop on it.

you can read me bad for kate all u want but that wont change my intentions

but yeah, either burberry or alex should be lynched today. im positive both of them are scum. the order of which they go is irrelevant
by Valentino
on Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:26 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

Jimmy Choo wrote:unvote
vote prada

hi vivienne as well

why not alex or burberry

do you not have a lick of doubt that alex would "town cop" every single person on your neighborhood.
by Valentino
on Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:04 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

i have a charge coming up tomorrow and im just annoyed rn
by Valentino
on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:24 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

im gonna list down possibilities of alex vs me
1. alex lied to get me lynched considering once the poe kicks in scum are going to get lynched in succession. last stand being = take me down as a townie
2. i lied as scum and revealed bad results. this might be heavy wifom but just think about it long and hard, my motivation is to prevent anymore mislynches and narrow down scum. by narrowing lynch pool i put the choices down to a few scummy players (either rayban or burberry). this information is what could possibly win town the game because i dont think im bastardized in any way whatsoever

im going to ate now becos people are pulling stuff out of their asses
- i mislynched miu miu
are you fucking kdiding me, that was a universally agreed upon lynch that no one objected. unlike everyone else i actually had a case on miu miu and those on the wagon that got on it without reason.

3. alex has some sort of bastardized cop role. this is HIGHLY unlikely but still possible. considering the nature of the game just think of the modifiers and roles that are in play. SUICIDAL IC, MILLER BULLETPROOF. thinkign of it, i doubt my results a bit but i doubt his more because i dont know his intentions.

my lynch pool today is alex or burberry vote alex
if alex was caught scum or in the process of being exposed as scum then hell pull off all stops. i still strongly believe that one of the neighbors is scum.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor
read that.

scum alex would most definitely try to appease to the neighbors by townreading all of them becos they have more communication than all of us hence them being able to settle on the read.

think of this logically first b4 voting pls because the inactives are getting really tiring and im just tiring myself out reading back into the game and getting lynched for liars

by Valentino
on Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:22 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

yeah im pretty pissed that some people i think were town are actually going to ruin the game now
by Valentino
on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:42 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

if scum were put in a position where the next lynch would solidify a chain of their lynches, then the scum would definitely push for a bad lynch w or w/o gambits

even if they get to lynch me if u guys fucking do then my flip will just end up getting all of them lynched so pls think long and hard about this

thinking abt it, the only people objecting to the actual wagon are those in risk of being lynched and that to me is just bullshit.

simple POE and we got scum, im not exactly sure why u guys are following them becos were heading to lylo pretty fast

i revealed informatin that could possibly win town game after so many fukin mislynches that you have the nerve to scumread me.

i wont really reply anything to whatever you said because these claims are most probably just flat out lies. not necessarily with roles but the results

a trend ive noticed with the game is the modifier with some roles. im going to full claim now as odd night sensor and idk what else you guys fuckign want

the results are there and no matter what you guys are just going to screw the town with another mislynch once im gone

by Valentino
on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:42 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

"we are not mafia so lets lynch the one who made a townblock"

r u guys fucking kidding me?

by Valentino
on Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:30 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

rayban lynch was pretty disappointing but im not sure how we tackle todays lynch

better yet vote Vera

i kind of trust jimmy, so im narrowing it down to vera/prada/yves/burberry

unless there are 2 scum neighbors which is ehish, i think that this lynch would have much better infromation to work with considering its a 3/4 chance to hit scum from my eyes
by Valentino
on Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:52 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

vote Burberry

pick up yesterdays wagon and analyze who was on it
by Valentino
on Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:43 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 4

i hav nothing better to contirbute until the flip, everyone's reads are solely based post flip that the theories r all over the place

we guarantee a scum lynch next day and i dont see any aspiring wagons so we can work off the reads on how this wagon went to the hammer

at this point, i dont feel the need to drag the game longer cos the results are right ther already and trying to "make the most out of the day" is just theorizing what your plan is if rayban flips on either spectrum.

prod dogs
by Valentino
on Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:19 pm
 
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im just waiting for flip becos i contributed all i can and reads right now are all based on pure speculation

someone should just hammer so that we dont go into scenarios where were just guessing someones alignment yet lynching him anyways.
by Valentino
on Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:41 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 4

i agree that we should lynch someone based on my results because that would easily PoE the scum.

we guarantee a scum lynch within 2 days with the current lynch pool and that to me is better than taking the risk of a mislynch

also, reads towards the lynches and how wagons form on these few bunch will easily speak out on who we start to townread and scumread
by Valentino
on Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:36 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 4

they can get to their win con a lot faster

:v
by Valentino
on Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:01 am
 
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