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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

*Should be 3, but I got your meaning.

Vote Armani

Honestly I was going to say something about how Armani's case on Jimmy was terrible in of itself but since Jimmy has already flipped I thought it negligible at this point.
by Burberry
on Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:36 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Killing the only role that could get the town out of MYLO and into a stage of the game where town could afford a mislynch is the ideal play for scum. Sure you could try to keep Zara alive to draw suspicion but if she were to jail scum it would have been over especially considering there was no jailkeeper counterclaim or anything of the sort.

I believe Marchesa's claim because I haven't seem them vote at all outside of the day 1 hammer. Considering there's been at least one sub in that slot it's hard to believe they would fake-crumb such a role from the very start as scum.

Yves actually is more town than Givenchy going strictly by roles because it's more likely that it's just a regular neighbour than a godfather one. I know I've been one of the main proponents of having one scum in the neighbourhood but if you take that hypothetical out she does look pretty clean.
by Burberry
on Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:12 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Armani wrote:I would like to point out that Burberry just made their first case after they were a likely quick lynch.  They pointed out my case on Jimmy but yet I never voted them.  That is entirely false.  I voted them originally then found it was useless to pursue that lynch at that time but made sure to remind everyone of my scum read on them.  I made my case before the end of a day to try and get people to take the night time to look over it and see what I was talking about.  There were also some other people whom agreed with some of what I was saying thinking that Jimmy was scum.


Look, here's your vote on them Day 5! Notice how before this there has been absolutely no preface explaining this, and on Day 6 you didn't make a case on him at all until the end, and didn't even vote him that day either. Link me if I'm wrong, I probably got lost in the dozen posts of you saying Jimmy is scum and backing it up with nothing but that one post (which had dubious logic anyways).

Armani wrote:Also, a Seraph Knight isn't that strong when you think about it.  I have to choose someone at random.  It could be town or scum but as long as I am not redirected or blocked they are protected from being killed using a killing command.  They would still die if lover and their lover died.  This means I could literally protect the mafia from being killed by a vigilante if there were one.  Finally, it is a compulsive ability so I have to use it Night 1 where the is little to no information.


I don't believe any of the Armanis mentioned this ability was compulsive (if I did, show me it).

On the new Seraph Knight info: Prada's passive jack-of-all-trades role is very likely to have protected her, since no one would have targeted her for a nightkill because she was on the scumteam.

Back to Armani: his list and his subsequent response to Yves is terrible. He is mildly scumreading her for thinking I am town; that is a terrible reason already. I'm not understanding how you could pull Givenchy as scum from votecount analysis because she's had her vote on Valentino quite a bit and the other votes were on the major wagons (not jumping around a lot). If you're going to say that just because she had her vote on Val doesn't mean she's town then I'd really like to see this logic of yours placing scumreads on people just by votecount analysis.

You're going to ask people why I'm town? The burden of proof is on you to find why I'm scummy, not lynch people who just don't look town to you.
by Burberry
on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:27 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 8 - Sat. Mar. 29 @ 16:00 EST - MYLO

Givenchy wrote:Now, lets deduce what must be true if Burb's claim is actually true.

Something must explain why there was only 1 kill both nights that Burb claimed her CPR kill succeeded (nights 3 and 5). The only reason the mafia kill would fail is if some town role prevented this, and the only claim we have that can prevent kills is Zara's jailkeep. [It is not possible for mafia to have targeted the same person as Burb due to the nature of the CPR Doctor role, unless there is a third party killer who has only sucessfully killed on nights 3 and 5. This possibility is so far out there for so many reasons I think we can rule it out.] Zara's roleblock stopping the mafia kill would mean that Armani sent in the mafia kill night 3, and I sent it in night 5 (since we were Zara's targets on the corresponding nights). Obviously I know this to be untrue since I know I am not mafia.

However, even if you believe the above to be possible, then in order for Burb to be town we also have to explain why Burb still lost a shot. This would mean that mafia has a higher priority redirect/roleblock/stop and this action was on Zara that night. While this is possible, nothing else in this game points to the existence of such a scum role. For example, why would mafia kill Zara (who I had listed on my scumreads) if they knew they had a failsafe way of controlling her action?


I believe Armani sent in the kill night 3 and mafia targetted you night 5. I guess me being mafia and lying about my claim is a lot simpler than me being town and someone messing with Zara's jailkeep on me, but besides a mod error, that is what happened. Since Prada flipped Jack of all Trades, some kind of roleblock or redirect on the side of the mafia is definitely possible. This would also explain why Zara was killed because they can't control her action forever.

If we are going to assume that Zara's jailkeep wasn't actually on me, then why did my kill on Prada fail? This is probably making the case against myself worse but it points towards a very loose end and the only I can think of is someone else having a kill...which means it might not just be town and mafia. Alternatively, Armani is a Mafia Seraph Knight and even when vanillaised the protection still exists. From mafiascum wiki:

MafiaScum wrote:It is particularly rare for someone to survive a CPR Doctor protection, barring outside interference such as other Doctors protecting the patient from the CPR Doctor's kill.


Givenchy wrote:Other questionable points in Burb's claim and play this game:

~She claims to have killed Vera, who at the time was the only neighbor that we could consider cleaned by Alex, who had flipped town before Burb killed Vera.

~She was completely and 100% convinced that Val was town when in my opinion it made no sense from a town perspective for her to be.


At that point I wasn't buying into the redirector business and was thinking godfather millers. I can't seem to recall what that theory was but haven't recent events disproved that?

Anyways, I was too focused on neighbors being scum because they themselves had brought it up and my personal opinion was that within a three-person neighborhood at least one was clearly scum, along with Valentino's results which EVERYONE was basing their play off of for at least some time. (The reason why I am not jumping on Yves now is because there are far scummier players to me.)

I hate to play the WIFOM card but the kills I've made (Fendi, Vera) don't mesh at all with the kills mafia have made (Dior, Versace, Jimmy). Maybe Kate was an odd kill but the nature of her role was probably designed to get Hermes out as well. Actually it doesn't even make sense how mafia can know who is an unrequited lover and with whom, so don't hold much weight to this paragraph, if any.

As for townreading Val, I had townread her before her sensor claim and since I knew my own innocence I believed we could win the game with her results. When there were 3/4 people that were mafia according to her results it fit that Jimmy, Yves, and Prada could all be scum (not all neighbors are town, Prada was scummy in general). I personally don't think this is an issue worth arguing any more but if you want me to talk about this more then by all means ask.

Givenchy wrote:tldr; Burb is by far our best lynch today.


It's Armani. I could probably expand on this but really the only thing I needed to see is how he made a focused case on Jimmy, didn't even vote him, and then we see how Jimmy dies which implies Armani just wanted to put up a lot of noise instead of actually scumhunting (he probably hadn't even commented on a Prada lynch all game, I should check later).

The scumteam is Armani/Bulgari/[Chanel/Vivienne/Yves]. I am not totally townreading Givenchy though because her claim is weird to me and the crumb is something I don't get at all. Vivienne shouldn't be considered until we at least lynch Armani because even if she were to be a scum gladiator we could tell her to 1v1 who we think is her partner and then have a win-win situation in that case.
by Burberry
on Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:07 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 7

I'll be busy up until the deadline so don't expect to see me for the rest of today.

Vivienne's claim is town. Even if you would suspect her she can be useful if you want to make her use her ability on another person we suspect at mafia.

I'm not lynching Prada because of the claim as much as I was already lynching her because of scummy play (see my ISO).
by Burberry
on Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:38 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 7

Maybe it's the scum that's too inactive. Also, you seem to have forgotten Jimmy is dead.

Since the host isn't lying to us, then the odd night deaths are explained by scum actually killing Dior and then what you said about Givenchy and Armani, which I want to comment later.

Vote Prada
by Burberry
on Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:37 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 7

So you're a Gladiator. Alright.

I'd at least like to see one of Bulgari/Zara go before Givenchy.
by Burberry
on Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:30 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 7

Prada wrote:Givenchy, what are the aliases you suspect people have?


This is just a question doing busy work (unless you're going to pull some meta argument into it, which I wouldn't advise because this anon game's purpose is to disguise meta, but whatever).

I don't believe the Vanilla Townie claim too, but I'll make comments after everyone has claimed.
by Burberry
on Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:55 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 7

Crumb fits. Original Marchesa only hammered Miu Miu at the end of day 1.

Waiting for others to also claim.
by Burberry
on Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:53 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Armani – Town… kind of. Has no basis for Jimmy being scum though, so his play is really anything but. Mafia seraph knight could be a thing though – see Bravest Warriors.
Bulgari – Scum. There’s just something strange about them. Their posts are fairly solid but the problem with them is the infrequency and general detachment from the game. Maybe this is confirmation bias because they’re not lynching Prada, but whatever.
Chanel – Lean Scum. I really can’t actually see a daykiller who already used up their shot feel the need to prod dodge over and over again. Early play was fine though, so maybe I’m looking at this the wrong way and that they just got demotivated to play.
Givenchy – Town.
Jimmy Choo – Town. I’m going to trust the cop results on this.
Marchesa – Town.
Prada – Scum. Lynch tomorrow.
Vivienne Westwood – Scum. This is a really weak read based on lurking however, and the first Vivienne tried to be really artsy but got nothing out of the poetry, so I think it was scum who just jumped ship.
Yves Saint Laurent – Town. If one of the neighbors is godfather, it’s her though.
Zara – Town. Pressure her constantly though. Make her claim.

Guess I got these out, wish I could've done more detail though. Someone go through Givenchy's ISO; she's the one I'm most paranoid about.
by Burberry
on Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:00 am
 
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Topic: FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

I misread this deadline and I thought it was at 2 pm Sunday EST. Eh. I'll request an extension though because in any case I want to get reads out before I get lynched (lol).
by Burberry
on Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:43 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

When you asked me whether I received any messages from the mod I thought you were looking for evidence such as "Your target was protected!" or "Your target evaded your kill!" or anything of the sort. The "You have 1 shot left" message I didn't consider to be related to the Prada kill failing because I felt it was a normal procession of being a role which used an x-shot action. For anyone who wants to check this I'll link it myself here because the pages do have a lot of text in them.

I don't know if another doctor on Prada would save them from my CPR Doctor ability killing them. Seems a bit too specific, but Lucifer, can you answer?

I think another explanation for your roleblock not going through to me is a roleblocker on yourself.

by Burberry
on Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:15 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

I received no message. Since my role isn’t an investigative role I wouldn’t get a “No Result” message or anything like I would get if I was a roleblocked inspector.

A note on “me vs Zara”: First of all, I’d rather not look at it in a “it’s either her or me” standpoint, as we saw when Louis and Ray were both town. Yes, Alex and Valentino weren’t both town, but to a lot of people in the game Valentino was a strong town read, and not just because of claim.

In response to this post, I am not trying to back up my claim, I’m saying Zara’s reasoning that if I were town I would have modified my claim is incorrect because I would have claimed correctly in the first place.

Of course I could just be mafia and claiming my kills as the mafia faction’s, but my claim wasn’t at a time to save myself. I was pretty sure I was going to be lynched and so I was going to get out all information regarding my role before I went under. I’m just really tired of people trying to think I’m trying to be town only because I claimed.

Now for the case on Prada.

Their first serious vote had poor justification as they never bothered to explain how Hermes had been “careless” and why that makes that scummy.

I remember asking her about the Dior vote and all I got was this response of, “Oh, I was bored.” This strikes me as more careless than the original Hermes had ever been.

Play during Day 2 and Day 3 was alright, mostly because Ray was just drawing so much suspicion. This is a fairly notable post though. I caught that Versace was a doublevoter early on and I assume other people had too but I didn’t want to point it out because I didn’t want mafia to nightkill him. I’m not actually sure how to read it because Versace’s double vote was extremely obvious ( a few vote counts where he was the only vote on someone and it counted as 2) but no one pointed it out until this post here. Side note: they promised reads and didn’t deliver.

Their angle on Valentino before the redirector speculation is town, but their recent posting seems really desperate.

This just looks like fluff. Because we’re coming up on night 6, whether or not the mafia can kill only on even nights probably means there’s going to be a kill anyways because a regular mafia has a kill every night. What you should really be looking forward to is Night 7.

Vote on Jimmy is actually something I missed. Jimmy is voting Valentino…based on Valentino’s results. I see an explanation from him here but I don’t know what he was going for there…Prada wasn’t using Valentino’s results to incriminate Valentino when she voted him.

I have no idea why Prada chooses to vote me following Zara’s long post + vote on me. Further evidence of the willingness to get on any lynch that isn’t hers. This last post about me seems to lean in favor of me though.

I really thought I would find more, but going through her ISO there were some sparse segments of activity and prod dodging. Plus the fact that apparently my kill /did/ go through and I see no claim from a Town Doctor who protected Prada n4. Sure you can believe that Zara roleblocked me, as there’s no way to prove that I did use up a shot, but it’s precisely that which makes her role claim and my role claim very difficult to grasp.
by Burberry
on Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:01 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

The new posts didn't load for me until now, so I missed this.

Whenever I submitted a shot to Lucifer I got the message afterwards that my action was received. A couple of days later, presumably at the end of the night, I was informed I had x shots left. In the case on the night I aimed for Prada, Lucifer told me I had 1 shot left. So I'm not seeing any evidence at all that I was roleblocked. Question though: where did you find that stopping an action prevents the shot from being used up? I know that's how it happens server-side but I couldn't find any evidence as to what the case was here.

Finally I see no reason why a Town 3-Shot CPR Doctor should scramble to try to change their claim if their claim was true in the first place, and town has no reason to lie. Besides, given the nature of this post I was thinking more along the lines of you claiming you had a investigative role and knew my role name (in which case, you'd see that I was telling the truth anyways).

Besides, I don't know how you'd reconcile the fact that I have a separate kill while also being on the side of the mafia faction when there's been an average of 1 kill per night.
by Burberry
on Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:06 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Never mind I'm dumb and forgot it was 2-shot sensor, so at least one of those is fake.
by Burberry
on Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:36 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Well, this could suddenly invalidate Valentino's results, as now we don't know how many scum are on any of the wagons - however, I do think that this should confirm the existence of another scum team. Why else would mafia need a sensor? (Legit question, I can't see any use for it if it's a one-faction game).

I am keeping my vote on Prada, will make a case on her later, and I guess I can start caring about maybe not actually being lynched today!

So - Alex's neighbor results are a bit more believable. We don't really need to assume a redirector now and can just assume Louis was just roleblocked n3, so maybe the neighbors can be clean, at least for now?

PS if Valentino wasn't lying at all about her results, there'd be two scum out of Yves/Jimmy/Prada/me and 3 scum out of [Yves Saint Laurent, Armani, Burberry, Bulgari, Chanel, Givenchy, Jimmy Choo]. Just for reference. I'm leaning towards basically ignoring those results though.
by Burberry
on Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:15 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

I realized that if I wanted to crumb the best time to have done that would be at the very beginning of the game (which I didn't because I was too busy trying to figure out how to mask my identity), along somewhere the lines of me being short of breath, but I realized with the way I have been posting in this game something like that on a day like day 2 or 3 it would have been seen very peculiarly and I was paranoid of mafia catching on. I figured a late crumb would be better than no crumb at all, but bear in mind I am not expecting people to suddenly townread me on the basis of a late crumb.

I don't think I said my day 4 remark "helped the town." If I did, I didn't mean it. My purpose of putting that post out was to maybe draw out someone part of the third-party if they seemed to know what was going on, or just get opinions in general, because Fendi was not at all a townread and it wouldn't make sense for mafia to kill him (WIFOM this as much as you want, but there were a number of better kills to make at that point). Of course I distanced myself away from saying it was a vigilante because if I said "maybe the vigilante did it" then I think mafia would target me for that because that's a vigilante tell, at least from my forum/server experience. Yes it wasn't very effective in the end - I realized that independently, but I'm not going to apologize for old posts.

Fendi was something I had in the back of my mind. I don't completely remember the scumreads I had then, though I do remember considering killing Givenchy for a moment and then backing out after rereading her. Prada was another one of my targets but reading her during that night Fendi looked much, much worse. I think I had scumread at least one of the neighbours at that point but I wasn't going to kill people who had claimed especially with better targets. I know Ray was one but I wasn't going to kill him so he could show his results and I figured he was going to be lynched easily anyways.

Regarding the Vera kill, I didn't aim for Prada again because my kill had failed night 5. Since she was one of the high priority lynches due to her presence on the Louis Vuitton wagon, I don't think mafia would kill her - besides, when I flip town she'd be mafia anyways and I see no reason for a doctor to protect her unless they thought she was town and I was scum? (I don't even know if a doctor's protection would work if I also targetted her; furthermore, if my even-night mafia kill theory is right, there was no kill made at her). And Vera had been inactive and generally unhelpful all game, so I felt I was fairly justified in getting her. Givenchy has already called me out for this and I admit Yves was probably a better kill.

For the record I received no message when the day started.
by Burberry
on Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:22 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Jimmy Choo wrote:Surely if there were two mafia neighbours then the reason for burberry thinking that, coming off valentino's results would be how, assuming she is town, by process of elimination removes herself from that group of 4 with 3 scum in it.
But by the fact that Burberry didnt go for that defense gives reason for doubt.  


This line of thought is wrong. If you are to assume that I am town and Valentino is town, then obviously there are two mafia neighbours as of now considering Vera is dead and flipped town. However, what they are grilling me on is that I somehow knew there were exactly two mafia neighbours before Vera's flip, which I explain in the first paragraph of this post.

As to why I killed Vera - maybe shooting Yves was probably a better idea because I forgot to pay attention to Alex's inspect results. I remembered that I was checking the order for his consistencies regarding his scumreads on days 2-4 and they fit but I forgot when I was using my shot. This actually works out in town's favor though because for some reason mafia didn't kill someone else along with my vig of Vera, so instead of having to lynch her we now know that Jimmy/Yves/Prada are all scum after I flip.

Going on a tangent here, disregard this until after I flip: The reason for the strange manner of kills may be because Dior's role was a Suicidal Innocent Child that may have died n1 because of her role modifier, not because the mafia killed her. Night 3 I killed Fendi and Night 5 I killed Vera, so mafia is probably killing on even nights.

Back on the topic - I don't think we can say for sure there's a redirector around. Yes it makes the most sense (Occam's Razor) for the redirect to be on Alex twice and Louis once but two Godfather Neighbours and a mafia roleblocker night 3 also work. Plus, if there is a redirector on Louis' vanillaiser, where did it go?

Also yes Gucci, get your vote off Givenchy and put it on an existing wagon (hint: not Valentino).

Givenchy, you should still entertain my thoughts on a couple of things. First off, the possible existence of a third-party, and if so, using Valentino's results and assuming a 5-member scum team, who it is?

Second off, assume for a moment I'm town, which would throw your postulated scum team off. Yes, I'm asking you to humor me. We both have the Prada read, and then if I am town then both Yves and Jimmy are scum, but then this means you still have to find 2 scum off the Miu Miu wagon, and right now you have Chanel OR Bulgari. Can they both be scum, and if not, who is it between Vivienne and Marchesa? Furthermore, if they are not both scum, then on Alex's wagon with 4 scum, with Yves/Jimmy/[Chanel/Bulgari]/Armani, there should be 6 mafia members. However, since this isn't MYLO (which again, a possible even-night kill only mafia could throw off), there may be a serial killer/third party.

(This last paragraph is confusing, but if someone needs me to explain I'll make it nicer format.)
by Burberry
on Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:30 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

All I really ask is that you don't lynch me until I get to say what I have to say.

My claim isn't even to save me, it's to show that yes, there seemed to be gaps in the Mafia kills on the nights Fendi and Vera died.
by Burberry
on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:39 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

With regards to the post Prada and Givenchy are quoting, there are two reasons I rushed it - yes, I actually did rush it! I did have to get a post out before deadline, and I also had to crumb.

Since I am now useless, I am (was) 3-Shot CPR Doctor. The first letters of those statements at the end of Day 5 read C P R, if you doubt me.

For those of you who don't know what it is, it's a doctor role that can protect someone as normal, but if they aren't being targetted by a kill that night they die, so I chose to use this role as a pseudo-vigilante instead. Night 3 I killed Fendi, which is why the first post I made on day 4 questioning why we only had one kill (previously there was only one death due to the scum kill but when I killed Fendi no one else died). Night 4 I aimed for Prada, but it didn't work for some reason and I see no reason for town doctor to have been on her, so I feel there's a mafia doctor and in that case this is why we have to lynch her first because she's probably the most important mafia member. Night 5 I killed Vera Wang, which is why I said in that post at the end of yesterday that Vera had to die. She was my biggest scum read out of the three neighbors which explains the strange kill on a seemingly useless person.
by Burberry
on Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:45 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Nice attempt to twist my opinion into a “scumslip.” I assumed there were two mafia neighbours because if all three were scum it would be pointless for them to be neighbours and I didn’t think it was likely three members of the mafia would make a gambit, especially when there was no reason for them to claim so early, like claiming neighbor. You can see it all the way back here where I say at least one of them is town. At the end of day 5 we were left with Vera, Jimmy, Yves, Prada, and me and I had a townread on Jimmy the whole game as well as a scumread on Prada, so logically I would call the other two scum, leading me to say there are two scum neighbours. With Vera Wang flipping town and there being three mafia out of Jimmy, Yves, Prada, and me, since I am not mafia (at least from my perspective, you don’t have to believe me, but it’s not a “scumslip”), then yes, there are two mafia neighbours.

So there’s my answer. Nice to know that Prada slipped in her attempt to push my mislynch by saying I have the most votes at the moment and there’s no way for town to change the wagon; basically saying “Hello, my scumbuddies and I are pushing this lynch because village is too inactive to actually care to move the lynch off Burberry.”

On to Givenchy. Impressive hypocrisy by saying that a person in my situation shouldn’t be taking Valentino’s towniness (and subsequent truthfulness/accuracy in he results) for granted and then going on to townread Valentino anyways. If Valentino is right and I’m scum, who’s the town out of Prada, Yves, and Jimmy? PEDIT: You even said the word “obviously,” way to make it stand out.

I’m going to refute your theory that town-me would start doubting Valentino’s results. Since town me knows I am town this would have been a great way to clean myself because I know there are a bunch of mafia on the day 3 wagon that I can pinpoint very specifically. Scum-me is the one who would attempt to discredit Valention’s results. Why? Because scum-me would know that when we eventually lynch the town on Louis Vuitton’s wagon and/or Valentino, then the rest of the lynches would be exceedingly obvious and the whole scum team is lynched on consecutive days.

Note: Mafia Cop and Mafia Redirector are probably right. The only problem with this theory is that for in order for scum to redirect Alex on multiple nights then they would most likely have inspected him on night 1, and yet they also killed Kate (a dubious read by a few, a scum read by Valentino) rather than Hermes, which implies they also knew her role before night 2. I don’t see how this works unless multiple teams or a very strange cop modifier, but basically it’s equally likely for a game of this caliber of role madness for there to at least be ONE mafia neighbor – not that it matters how they inspect because Valentino’s results point to at least ONE of them being mafia. Also don’t call this statement as scum backpedaling on there being two mafia neighbors, of course they are both mafia, but from a completely natural perspective it’s impossible for both of them to be town.

Armani is probably town, Seraph Knight is not something I would think to fakeclaim.

I might not actually be a bad lynch, considering I’ve been on all wagons then it eliminates someone from Valentino’s results and then there will be 5 confirmed scum and village can win as long as they aren’t inactive – seriously if we lose this something has to be done about inactives.

If there’s only one scum team, we’ve already won. They would be:
- Prada
- Jimmy Choo
- Yves Saint Laurent
- Chanel
- Bulgari (these two are scum because they were both on Miu Miu’s and Ray’s wagons)
Because if there were 6 then as Yves pointed out we’d be at LYLO. A few problems I have with this, however:

When Valentino mentioned ‘non-mafia people,’ there’s probably a werewolf team/serial killer (I’m hinging on serial killer that can’t kill).

Fortunately this means Givenchy is town so town won’t be completely lost after Valentino dies. I’d like to know SOMEONE’s opinion of a possible third party here who isn’t killing for whatever reason.

Another problem – I can’t see mafia having a dayvig, although this might explain their lack of kills every night.
by Burberry
on Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:36 am
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 6 - Sun. Mar. 9 @ 2:00 EST

Honestly I don't know why you would lynch someone outside of Yves, Jimmy, Prada, or me when there's a 75% chance of landing scum assuming Valentino isn't lying (which I still don't think she is).

Vote Prada

Admittedly this is long overdue.
by Burberry
on Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:07 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

Crap, deadline is soon so I have to just say thoughts quickly before day ends officially. Well if Alex flips town then two of the mafia neighbours inspect as town which is very frustrating.

Probably Vera and Yves.

Right...so if Alex does flip scum, the neighbours are the best lynch anyways because it's impossible for all of them to be town based on Valentino's results. (There are three scum out of Jimmy, Vera, Yves, Prada, and me). Vera does need to die but Prada has always been a good lynch all game so there's that.
by Burberry
on Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:50 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

Valentino wrote:
burberry has been in all mislynches
burberry is misrepresenting the information im giving yet STILL STICKING to it. basically what shes doing is following my results that there are scum on wagon, but is deflecting it on the person who actually gave the results for the scum on that wagon

i honestly dont understand why i have to fucking explain anything. ive read back in this game like thrice now in different threads yet people are still adamant on crumbs and claims and why x is scummy for voting y

you are all fucking annoying for skimping out on information just because someone is misinterpretting them


I don't see how I'm deflecting it on you because I am townreading you right now. If you are talking about Alex, we are both voting him, so that doesn't make sense either.

We can lynch Prada too but maybe some semblance of coordination would be nice because the deadline is tomorrow.
by Burberry
on Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:26 pm
 
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FASHIONABLE NOC ANON MAFIA - Day 5

How did I not realize this sooner?

Burberry, Vivienne Westwood, Valentino, Chanel, Alexander McQueen, Bulgari, Marchesa

There's 2 scum out of here. Valentino omitted Bulgari and Marchesa for whatever reason in their first sensor post.
by Burberry
on Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:13 am
 
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